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Comments on ARN from Bay of Fundie

The Bay of Fundie blog, no friend of ARN, opined on our recent "Top 10 Darwin and Design News Stories of 2007".

It is not surprising that when someone has little to say concerning the substance of the debate, he resorts to ad hominem attacks and vitriolic speech.

For instance, ARN and IDers are crackpots, morons, "smart guys", retards, incapable of understanding biology, Clowndi_ks, fundies, disinformationists, etc.

He asserts there is no debate, which is often the first line of "defense" of proponents of the "Modern Synthesis", a.k.a. Neo-Darwinism (and Global Warming).

IDers are liars, like Joseph Goebbels (a Nazi), who once may have said, "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." As was said in the blog, sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.

As is typical of Neo-Darwinists, they separate the origin of species from the origin of life. Neo-Darwinism does not deal with the origin of life, and we are well aware of that fact. But, in the materialist's worldview, the origin of life is actually more problematic than the origin of species. That's why Francis Crick pushed back OOL by proposing directed panspermia. He rightly concluded that a chemical origin of life on Earth was impossible. He posited that OOL must have happened somewhere else in the universe, and was brought here. Neo-Darwinists choose to say, "In the beginning was a great mystery, then evolution."

One of the citations in the blog to indicate how out-of-touch IDers are with Neo-Darwinism is from 1993. In that post, Moran states, "Biologists no longer question whether evolution has occurred or is occurring. That part of Darwin's book is now considered to be so overwhelmingly demonstrated that is is often referred to as the FACT of evolution. However, the MECHANISM of evolution is still debated." So, my question is, "If we don't know HOW materialistic evolution happened, how do we know THAT it happened?" The debate (which he says doesn't even exist among REAL scientists) is about the HOW (mechanisms). What they accuse us of (God of the Gaps), is exactly what they are doing (Science of the Gaps), when saying they don't know HOW it happened. But, according to them, it had to have happened, because it fits their worldview.

Believers in the extranatural either believe that the universe was front-loaded with information, or a designer injected information into systems at various times. If REAL scientists can infer design in SETI, criminology, etc., why not in biological science? Well, that would upset the apple cart, because they cannot allow a "divine foot in the door". So they attempt to nail the door shut by saying there is no legitimate debate.

I prefer clarity of thinking over agreement. This is what we should all strive for this coming year, including Neo-Darwinists.

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